AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00567
Her commander chose to remove her from attendance with prejudice based on her performance under his command which was within his purview as her commander and documented in her record. Additionally, states DPPPO, since the citation for the MSM, 2 OLC, was filed in her Officer Selection Record, a notice was placed in her record indicating the decoration was missing; therefore, the board members were aware of its existence and it was factored into their promotion evaluation. While it appears...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00568
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00568 INDEX NUMBER: 110.00 XXXXXXX COUNSEL: None XXXXXXX HEARING DESIRED: No _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: Her Separation Code of “JBK,” discharged after completion of required service, be changed. Her “2X” Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) code, “First-term, second-term, or career airman considered but not selected for...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00569
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: 2004-00569 INDEX CODE: 110.02 COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: His Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) code be changed from 2B to 3K or some other waiverable code. _________________________________________________________________ STATEMENT OF FACTS: The applicant enlisted in the Regular Air Force on 18...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00571
In response to the Board’s request, the FBI indicated they were unable to identify with an arrest record pertaining to the applicant on the basis of information furnished (Exhibit D). Additionally, the applicant did not submit any evidence or identify any errors or injustices that occurred in his discharge processing, nor did he provide any facts to support changing the character of his service. Although the applicant completed the term of his enlistment contract, we are aware that the...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00576
Members of the Board, Mr. Michael K. Gallogly, Mr. Terry L. Scott, and Mr. Albert C. Ellett considered this application on 25 August 2004. MICHAEL K. GALLOGLY Panel Chair Attachment: Ltr, HQ ARPC/DPP, dtd 26 Jul 04 AFBCMR BC-2004-00576 MEMORANDUM FOR THE CHIEF OF STAFF Under the authority of Section 1552, Title 10, United States Code, Air Force Instruction 36-2603, and having assured compliance with the provisions of the above regulation, the decision of the Air Force Board for Correction...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00577
On 31 March 1989, he was relieved from active duty and retired in the grade of master sergeant (E-7) under the provisions of AFR 35-7 (voluntary--retirement for years of service established by law). Details of his evaluation are at Exhibit C. _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT'S REVIEW OF AIR FORCE EVALUATION: A copy of the Air Force evaluation was forwarded to applicant on 12 October 2004 for review and response. ...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00579
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00579 INDEX CODE: 128.05 COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: He receive payment of his Initial Enlistment Bonus (IEB) in the amount of $7,000.00. This applicant was not authorized to receive this bonus and furthermore it was a bonus that was authorized with a six-year enlistment only. ...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00580
INDEX CODE: 112.03 BC-2004-00580 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: Applicant Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Force office of primary responsibility and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be corrected as set forth in...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00587
INDEX CODE: 131.05 BC-2004-00587 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: APPLICANT Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Force office of primary responsibility and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be corrected as set forth in...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00588
The Board found that the applicant did commit an act of sodomy and recommended he be discharged from the Air Force with an undesirable discharge. On 28 Sep 61, the applicant applied to the Air Force Discharge Review Board (AFDRB) requesting his discharge be upgraded to an honorable discharge. Applicant's Master Personnel Records Exhibit C. AFDRB Hearing Record, dated 8 Nov 61, w/atchs Exhibit D. Letter, AFPC/DPPRS, dated 12 Mar 04 Exhibit E. Letter, SAF/MRBR, dated 19 Mar 04 GREGORY H....
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00593
While he was notified by mail of this opportunity, no evidence exists to show he made an election. DPS states the member had two opportunities to elect the coverage he felt he needed at those times. We took notice of the applicant's complete submission in judging the merits of the case; however, we agree with the opinion and recommendation of the Air Force office of primary responsibility and adopt their rationale as the basis for our conclusion that the applicant has not been the victim...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00597
_________________________________________________________________ AIR FORCE EVALUATION: The AFBCMR Medical Consultant recommends denial of the applicant’s request. Evidence of record indicates that the applicant performed his duties in a satisfactory manner up to the time of his voluntary release from active duty. We took notice of the applicant's complete submission in judging the merits of the case; however, we agree with the opinion and recommendation of the Air Force office of primary...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00602
JAJM states there was no error or injustice related to the sentence. As of this date, this office has received no response (Exhibit D). _________________________________________________________________ The following members of the Board considered this application in Executive Session on 29 July 2004, under the provisions of AFI 36-2603: Mr. Richard A. Peterson, Panel Chair Ms. Kathleen F. Graham, Member Mr. Vance E. Lineberger, Member The following documentary evidence was considered in...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00606
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00606 INDEX NUMBER: 131.00 XXXXXXX COUNSEL: NONE XXXXXXX HEARING DESIRED: YES _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: Material errors contained on his Promotion Recommendation Form (PRF), prepared for the P0503A Central Selection Board, be corrected; the final line of Block IV, be changed to reflect “- Personifies leadership! ...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00607
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00607 INDEX CODE: COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: Her DD Form 214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty, be corrected to reflect the Desert Shield/Desert Storm deployment. We took notice of the applicant's complete submission in judging the merits of the case; however, we...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00608
The applicant was administratively discharged with an entry level separation after disclosing a history of Bipolar Disorder for several years prior to entering active duty. A complete copy of the Air Force evaluation is attached at Exhibit C. __________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT'S REVIEW OF AIR FORCE EVALUATION: On 31 Aug 04, a copy of the Air Force evaluation was forwarded to the applicant for review and response within 30 days. Exhibit C. Letter,...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00610
AFBCMR BC-2004-00610 INDEX CODE: 137.00 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: SSAN: Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Staff and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be corrected as set forth in the accompanying Memorandum for...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00611
AFPC/DPPTR states there is no evidence of an Air Force error; however, to preclude a possible injustice, they recommend the member’s record be corrected to reflect that on 9 May 1989 he elected former spouse coverage based on a reduced level of retired pay. On 21 July 2004, this office received a letter from the former spouse’s counsel stating that on 27 July 1989, he sent a copy of the Divorce Decree and Property Settlement Agreement to the Air Force. ...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00617
His sentence included a reduction to E-1 (airman basic), confinement for three months, and a bad conduct discharge. On 18 December 1992, the Air Force Court of Military Review approved and affirmed the findings of guilty and the sentence. While law precludes us from reversing a court-martial conviction, we are authorized to correct the records to reflect actions taken by reviewing officials and to take action on the sentence of a military court based on clemency.
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00619
The applicant incurred a debt of $23,177.40 due to the receipt of erroneous payments of BAH and Overseas Housing Allowance (OHA) from 26 Aug 98 through 30 Apr 02. Therefore, he should have questioned his pay when he moved into family quarters overseas and started receiving BAH and OHA. Had the applicant questioned his pay within a reasonable amount of time, he would not have incurred such a large debt.
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00620
The applicant did not have a severe mental disorder and was not considered mentally disordered. In his recommendation for discharge, the commander indicated he was recommending the applicant be discharged with an entry-level separation. However, after reviewing the applicant’s request and the evidence of record, we find the narrative reason for his separation; i.e., personality disorder, to be inaccurate.
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00622
COUNSEL: None HEARING DESIRED: Yes _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: He be granted a waiver of Community College of the Air Force (CCAF) Associate in Applied Science (AAS) degree requirements and be awarded a degree in Airport Resource Management. CCAF contends that, because the applicant was unable or unwilling to satisfy all CCAF requirements for the AAS degree, he has requested that CCAF lower its standards and award him a degree. ...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00623
_________________________________________________________________ STATEMENT OF FACTS: On 3 September 1993, the applicant signed an AF Form 1056, Air Force Reserve Officer Training Corps (AFROTC) Contract. Congress purposely made ROTC graduates ineligible for the MGIB in its effort to prevent individuals from receiving “double” benefits. She further indicates if she received scholarship monies she would have received between $6,000.00 and $12,000.00 per year.
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00633
INDEX CODE: 121.03 AFBCMR BC-2004-00633 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Force office of primary responsibility and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be corrected as set forth in the...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00635
INDEX CODE 128.14 AFBCMR BC-2004-00635 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Staff and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be corrected as set forth in the accompanying Memorandum for the...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00637
The following is a resume of her EPR profile: Period Ending Promotion Recommendation 28 Jan 03 5 12 Sep 02 3* 09 Nov 01 5 09 Nov 00 5 09 Nov 99 5 14 Feb 99 5 14 Feb 98 5 14 Feb 97 5 * - Contested Report The applicant submitted an appeal to the Evaluation Reports Appeal Board (ERAB). _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT'S REVIEW OF AIR FORCE EVALUATION: A copy of the Air Force evaluation was forwarded to the applicant on 2 Apr 04 for review and comment...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00639
INDEX CODE: 128.02 AFBCMR BC-2004-00639 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Force office of primary responsibility and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00642
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00642 XXXXXXX COUNSEL: NONE XXXXXXX HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: The 23-month extension of his enlistment contract and his original date of separation be restored. In this respect, the majority of the Board notes that the applicant executed an extension contract on 14 March 2002 for a period of 23...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00644
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00644 INDEX CODE: 107.00 COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: YES _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: He be awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC) and an Oak Leaf Cluster to the Purple Heart (PH) Medal. There is no evidence in his records of a recommendation for award of the DFC. Military Personnel Record Exhibit C. Letter,...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00645
DPPTR stated that although the member claims he was unaware of the required one-year time limit, issues of The Afterburner, News for Retired Air Force Personnel, were routinely mailed to the applicant’s correspondence address on file at the finance center. Copies of The Afterburner reminded retirees of their SBP options when marrying after retirement. _________________________________________________________________ THE BOARD DETERMINES THAT: The applicant be notified that the evidence...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00646
However, the decoration was not updated in the system at the time initial selects were run as evidenced by the score notice dated 17 Mar 81. Also, the MSM (1OLC) was not considered by the promotion board. We noted applicant’s contention that the MSM, 1OLC, was not considered by the promotion board; however, since this award did not close out until 30 Jun 82, and was not awarded until 22 Jul 82, it did not meet the eligibility criteria for cycle 82S9.
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00651
INDEX CODE: 110.02 AFBCMR BC-2004-00651 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Force office of primary responsibility and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be corrected as set forth in the...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00652
He received two Airman Performance Reports (APRs) closing 16 October 1956 and 10 December 1956, in which the overall evaluations were “excellent.” The applicant’s discharge case file has been lost or destroyed. The Air Force Discharge Review Board (AFDRB) denied applicant’s request for an upgrade of discharge on 18 June 1958. On 22 April 2004, the Board staff requested the applicant provide post- service documentation within 30 days (Exhibit E).
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00653
___________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT CONTENDS THAT: The RE code he received at the time of his discharge was not in error. A complete copy of the Air Force evaluation is at Exhibit C. ___________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT'S REVIEW OF AIR FORCE EVALUATION: On 26 Mar 04, a copy of the Air Force evaluation was forwarded to the applicant for review and comment within 30 days. Therefore, the request for a hearing...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00656
On 28 Aug 00, his squadron commander notified him that he was recommending his discharge from the Air Force for a mental disorder. The applicant’s medical records document an Adjustment Disorder and Personality Disorder. The complete evaluation is at Exhibit C. _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT'S REVIEW OF AIR FORCE EVALUATION: In response to the Air Force evaluation the applicant provides a copy of a psychological evaluation, his current academic...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00657
Applicant’s fourth enlistment period, 23 July 1964 - 22 July 1969, reveals two years and 22 days of foreign and/or SEA service and award of the Vietnam Service Medal (VSM), Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA) with two bronze oak leaf clusters (2OLCs), Air Force Good Conduct Medal (AFGCM) w/1OLC, Air Force Commendation Medal (AFCM) and the Air Force Longevity Service Award (AFLSA) w/2OLCs. As of this date, no response has been received by this office (Exhibit D). The applicant has...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00658
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00658 INDEX CODE: 110.00 COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: His bad conduct discharge be upgraded to honorable. Time lost was 2 months and 18 days due to confinement. Specifically, Section 1552(f)(1) permits the correction of a record to reflect actions taken by reviewing authorities under...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00659
A review of his master personnel records reveals no documents that show he was TDY to Korea. The DPAPP2 evaluation is at Exhibit C. _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT'S REVIEW OF AIR FORCE EVALUATION: A copy of the Air Force evaluation was forwarded to the applicant on 19 Mar 04 for review and comment within 30 days. We find no evidence of error in this case and after a thorough review of the documentation that has been submitted in support of his...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00660
AFBCMR BC-2004-00660 INDEX CODE: 102.02 MEMORANDUM OF CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION BEFORE THE AFBCMR SUBJECT: SSAN: Having carefully reviewed this application, we agree with the recommendation of the Air Staff and adopt the rationale expressed as the basis for our decision that the applicant has been the victim of either an error or an injustice. Therefore, under the authority delegated in AFI 36-2603, the applicant's records will be corrected as set forth in the accompanying Memorandum for...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00664
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00664 INDEX CODE: 128.00 COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: The Government pay for a year of nontemporary storage for his Household Goods (HHG) and associated charges for packing, drayage, handling, and packing materials. On 28 November 2001, the applicant placed 10,920 pounds of household...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00666
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00666 INDEX NUMBER: 110; 128.10 XXXXXXX COUNSEL: None XXXXXXX HEARING DESIRED: Yes _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: His discharge from the Air Force for fraudulent enlistment be voided. _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT CONTENDS THAT: He was discharged for fraudulent enlistment...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00667
After noting the differences in the statutory criteria for disability rating decisions by the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs, it is the opinion of the BCMR Medical Consultant that the evidence of record establishes beyond all reasonable doubt that the applicant was properly evaluated and rated, and her separation for physical disability with a 10 percent rating was proper. We believe it is interesting to note that for approximately two years following her...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00671
_________________________________________________________________ AIR FORCE EVALUATION: AFPC/DPPD recommends denial of applicant’s request stating, in part, that although his disability rating exceeds the required 10% rating, he does not qualify for CRSC since he did not complete 20 years of active service. However, after careful review of the available records, it appears he has been credited with all active service creditable under the governing regulation and laws in effect at the time...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00673
Pursuant to the Board's request, the FBI, Clarksburg, West Virginia, provided an investigative report which is attached at Exhibit C. _________________________________________________________________ AIR FORCE EVALUATION: AFLSA/JAJM indicated that under 10 USC 1552(f), the AFBCMR’s ability to correct records related to courts-martial is limited. We do not believe an honorable discharge is warranted due to the limited documentation provided by the applicant regarding his activities since his...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00675
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00675 INDEX CODE: 107.00 COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: He be awarded the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (AFEM). _________________________________________________________________ STATEMENT OF FACTS: On 25 May 1955, the applicant enlisted in the Regular Air Force in the grade of airman...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00677
According to the Medical Evaluation Board (MEB) report, Applicant was seen on 19 Jan 97 in the medical clinic for pain to his left knee. He was discharged on 1 May 97 with an RE code of “2Q.” _________________________________________________________________ AIR FORCE EVALUATION: AFPC/DPPD recommends denial of Applicant’s request. Applicant failed to provide supporting evidence that his left knee problem did not exist prior to his military service.
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00678
His DD Form 214 reflects he was awarded the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA), Air Good Conduct Medal (AFGCM) with three Oak Leaf Clusters (OLC), National Defense Service Medal (NDSM), Air Force Overseas Long Tour Ribbon; Air Force Longevity Service Award with 2 OLCs and the Air Force Training Ribbon. On 26 May 2004,AFPC/DPPPR requested the applicant provide a copy of his TDY order and travel voucher to verify his eligibility for the award of the SWASM. Novel, Member The following...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00682
On 22 Feb 96, the staff judge advocate found the case file legally sufficient to justify an administrative discharge for failure in alcohol abuse treatment and recommended that the applicant be discharged with a general (under honorable conditions) discharge, without probation and rehabilitation. ___________________________________________________________________ THE BOARD DETERMINES THAT: The applicant be notified that the evidence presented did not demonstrate the existence of material...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00684
_________________________________________________________________ THE BOARD DETERMINES THAT: The applicant be notified that the evidence presented did not demonstrate the existence of material error or injustice; that the application was denied without a personal appearance; and that the application will only be reconsidered upon the submission of newly discovered relevant evidence not considered with this application. _________________________________________________________________ The...
AF | BCMR | CY2004 | BC-2004-00685
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS AIR FORCE BOARD FOR CORRECTION OF MILITARY RECORDS IN THE MATTER OF: DOCKET NUMBER: BC-2004-00685 INDEX CODE: 137.04 COUNSEL: NONE HEARING DESIRED: NO _________________________________________________________________ APPLICANT REQUESTS THAT: Corrective action be taken to show her deceased former spouse elected to change his Survivor Benefit Program (SBP) election from spouse only to spouse and child to include their son who was born after he retired. We took notice of...